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A downside to immortality.

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"Ever since I was a kid, I'd have this dream where somebody would find out what I could do. It starts off with lots of ice cream and balloons, and ends in a small white room where little bits are cut out of me until there's nothing left to cut."

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A standard justification for any unusual character to maintain a Masquerade, because The Government is Evil and Science Is Bad and if the authorities got their hands on them, they'd stick them in a concrete box and perform all sorts of cruel experiments to find out what makes them and/or their special powers tick, either destroying their quality of life, or killing them outright in hopes of getting all sorts of goodies.

Scientists will usually be portrayed as too obsessed to care for anyone or anything who might be used to further our knowledge of the universe or make a cool new weapon, caring only about the fame or payment they'll receive from their higher-ups. Only one bad scientist is quite enough to spoil your day, but in settings that use this trope the majority of encountered research workers are likely to be like this.

The oddest part of this trope is that the danger may never even materialize within the story—but it will never be questioned by anyone concerned.

Frequently, this trope is present due to the character's Inhumanable Alien Rights...

Sadly, there is some Truth in Television here (there is a long and dark history of human subject research and the early days of biological science can best be summed up with "let's see how many needles we can stick in this dog before it stops making noises out of its mouth!") But this trope doesn't exactly show a fair or accurate portrayal of modern science. Currently, in Real Life, scientists have to follow very strict ethical testing standards to be able to publish their results. Getting caught violating them can easily end their careers. It should also be noted that the Not Even Human excuse some scientists love to use in fiction would not apply in real life, as no law will explicitly refer to its subjects as being Homo sapiens. Of course, these considerations only apply to scientists who intend their results to be publicly documented (e.g. secret military projects aren't). Crime is only punishable if one is caught. Further theories should be directed to No Delays for the Wicked. (Naturally, none of this applies to the various black ops organizations that either suspect—or already know about — The Masquerade.)

This trope also happily ignores the fact that when you only have one specimen, it is a good idea to take good care of it because once it stops working it is hard to figure out how it used to. Of course, this is cold comfort to said specimen - it just means the torture will be of a greater duration, and would still result in them being locked away somewhere.

May be one of the reasons why Humans Are the Real Monsters. Playing with Syringes is what happens when they really do cut you up.

Possibly fated to become a Discredited Trope, at least in the literal pass-me-the-scalpel sense, as sonography, MRIs, and other imaging techniques have made hands-on vivisection unnecessary for the internal examination of research subjects, given sufficient funding and resources. Depending on who exactly might be after you and why, however, you may still want to be very careful not to get discovered and/or captured just the same. A lot of stories involve characters who don't want to be locked up for the rest of their lives with tests being performed on them.

At the same time, though, there are Real Life instances where people have willingly donated their bodies (or blood samples or whatever) to science in order to help research into whatever special condition they have.

Compare Alien Autopsy, in which the fantastic creature being studied is usually dead when human scientists find it in the first place, which would make such an up close and personal study sound significantly less unethical.

Examples of They Would Cut You Up include:

Anime and Manga[]

  • Agito, the short-tempered fire fairy from Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, can only remember being confined in a lab, which had left her almost completely broken, physically and mentally. According to her, she was only days away from death by exhaustion before being rescued.
  • Midori no Hibi manifests the danger in the form of a Mad Scientist who, of course, wants to dissect Midori For Science!.
  • A variant is Alphonse Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist. Mustang advises Al not to continue with the State Alchemy exam because there is often a physical examination involved, at which point they would discover his armor is empty and cart him off to a laboratory for study. However, Al doesn't have a masquerade; people who don't know the truth simply assume he likes armor/feels safe inside it.
    • Later on in the anime, at least, it's implied that most people know he's a living suit of armor, but since the government already knows how to create those nobody really gives a damn. At the time of the exam, Colonel Mustang wasn't quite high enough in the chain of command to realize this.
  • Narutaru plays with this; Akira is really worried that something along these lines will happen if people find out about the "shadow dragons" because "that's how it always happens in manga..."
    • Which, given the series' tone and setting, is is probably 100% accurate (or worse).
  • Dr. K-ko's antagonist status in Magical Pokaan comes from her intent to fool around with the girls in a lab.
  • In the early episodes of Keroro Gunsou, this is part of the reason (along with imprisonment and potential traffic accidents) why the alien frogs are not allowed to go out on their own, at least before they develop their Mobile Suit Humans.
  • In the Excel Saga manga, this happening to Hyatt is one of many reasons Excel is nervous about health care providers.
  • Between this and drowning at the bottom of the Hudson River for half a century, Eve Genoard of Baccano! chooses this fate for her missing brother.
    • She needn't worry though, because it turns out her brother wasn't there — the Lemures fished him out to use as a bargaining chip.
  • Tsukihime: In her backstory, Ciel was subjected to a very thorough "examination" after The Church discovered her bizarre ability to automatically, completely regenerate from any injury. No matter what they did, she just wouldn't die, but that didn't stop them from trying over and over again. In her route in the game, she attempts to kill Shiki after he is possessed by Roa to keep him from suffering the same fate.
    • It's not that The Church wanted to know how she regenerates, they just wanted her to stay dead. They are keen on the idea that if something died it should stay dead.
      • Let's hope they never get their hands on Shirou.
  • In Utawarerumono, Hakurou takes his Petting Zoo Person girlfriend and runs, not wanting this to happen to her. He fails.
  • Durarara!! has an interesting variation on this: instead of capturing Celty and performing a forced vivisection, a doctor approaches the supernatural entity in question and asks her if she would be willing to undergo such a procedure in exchange for a permanent place to stay—and she agrees. The results are still rather traumatic for her though, as it turns out that The Fair Folk are resistant to drugs and anesthesia.
    • She then lives and falls in love with one of the scientists who did the work, and it's implied that she even works for the organization even after she learns they're holding her head.
  • Tessla in the Trigun manga didn't have a chance to run away. Her life and death make up Vash and Knives' tragic Backstory.
  • Subverted and justified in Digimon Tamers: the local Men In Black's leader Yamaki has an all-consuming hatred for Digimon, and really would cut them up. At one point, he sadistically destroys a Digimon on-screen over the mon's pleas for mercy. Takato worries about this for Guilmon and at one point imagines the army brutally gunning down his dinosaur buddy. Yamaki eventually sees the error of his ways, at which point the Tamers stop caring about keeping their Digimon hidden.
  • Dr Ni has expressed his interest in research of the slightly odd characteristics of the youkai-ness of most of the sanzo party in Saiyuki given who this is I think it'd be safe to assume this research wouldn't be pleasant
  • Darker than Black has references to PANDORA practicing experimentation on Contractors. It's mentioned that initially, various countries did this, until a U.N. treaty intervened. Not to stop this, but to demand that countries would share their research. The manga provided some glimpses into one of such research facilities.
  • In Witchblade at some point the wielder was captured and examined, but it turned out that while she was kept sedated, they won't dare to do anything that could look for Witchblade like an attempt to harm or remove its host (it can mince heavy machinery in an eyewink even against her will) before killing her outright. Manga, on the other hand, contained flashbacks about genetic experimentation with demon remnants as a source for creation of Super Soldiers (this didn't end well).
  • Referenced in Chrono Crusade, when the Magdalan Order approaches Joshua about joining them so they can help him learn to use his powers better, his sister Rosette tries to convince him not to by telling him they'll perform experiments on him and "pickle you in formaldehyde!" Joshua's response is just to laugh and tell her she reads too many books. (And she doesn't seem to believe it anyway, she just doesn't want them to take Joshua away from her.)
  • Averted: When Special Agent Axel Hughes finds out that Joey is the Kid With the Remote Control for Heroman, Joey asks him what's going to happen to him. "The U.S. Government is going to lock you away and do experiments on you for the rest of your life." Upon the look of horror on Joey's face, Axel laughs and tells him, that no; a friendly alliance is more beneficial for everyone. "You really thought we were going to do that?"
  • Mayuri Kurotsuchi in Bleach wants to cut up and experiment on anybody who demonstrates abilities he's unfamiliar with.
  • In Nichijou, miss Nakamura wishes to do this to the robotic Nano, so she can take credit for inventing her. If Nakamura weren't so inept at her repeated attempts to kidnap Nano, this would be quite dark for such an upbeat show.
  • Misaka WORST from A Certain Magical Index, said to have been cut open, without being put to sleep, or any pain-killer.


Comic Books[]

  • In Vögelein, this is one of the arguments the Duskie gives for why Humans Are Bastards, saying that they'll take the title character, lock her up, and take her to pieces to see how she works. Considering that she's a clockwork Faerie...
  • A different example has Deadpool supporting character Montgomery at the mercy of a corporation that keeps him hooked up to machines, the better to utilize his precognition to their advantage.
  • In G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers, the Joes are ordered to do this to Bumblebee and Wheeljack by their superiors, who only see them as machines. They almost carry them out, until a stunned Wheeljack reveals that the army's plans of nuking Cobra Island will have disastrous consequences...
  • This was the motivation behind mutated child Batwing's rampage in Untold Tales of Spider Man. When Spider-Man discovers him and promises to get him help, he freaks out completely because, as he put it, "Not going... get cut up by scientists... like mom said!"
  • The Planetary/JLA crossover oneshot is set in an alternate reality where the Planetary organization controls the advancement of science and technology the world over. By the time of the story, they've already cut up Barry Allen and Ray Palmer (the Atom) in order to create super-fast couriers and shrinking technology for Fantastic Voyage-style medical procedures.
  • Nikolai Dante refuses to report back to the the Makarov Dynasty after the Romanov Dynasty Weapon Crest fuses with his body for fear that the Makarovs would cut him up to learn how to design a similar Weapon Crest for themselves.
  • The Sandman: One of the reasons Hob keeps his immortality a secret from most people he knows, including the mortals he falls in love with. It's too easy for him to imagine a bunch of "Noble-prize wannabes examining slices of my pancreas."
  • Superman: Secret Identity - Clark is captured and experimented on by shady military types, and only narrowly escapes. On his way out, he finds the bodies of other superhumans who weren't so lucky, some of them children. When he learns he's going to have kids of his own, he makes it clear that he could have taken the entire government apart a long time ago if he wanted to and is prepared to help them out on his own terms.


Fan Works[]

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First, blanket statement: we're not going with your ridiculous military scientists. No poking, no prodding, no examinations, no experiments. If you're that curious you can ask nicely, but we reserve the right to say no. And especially don't do the cliché kidnap-them-in-the-middle-of-the-night-when-they're-off-guard thing.

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  • In With Strings Attached, Shag points out that John can't go home with wings because he'd be dissected; Paul unknowingly echoes this when he tries to talk John into finding a way to change back. Much later, after he really is facing the return home, John sourly reflects that at least the scientists won't be able to hang onto him.
    • Also, Jeft refers to extremely powerful psionics as suffering this fate while Shag is yelling at him for apparently inducing psionic powers in Ringo.
  • In Emergence, Sam, Cliff and the other students who find and help the members of Team RWBY explicitly worry about government agents doing this to the girls — unnecessarily, as it turns out.
  • In AU Real Person Fic, "Case of the Missing Technology", a Mad Scientist kidnaps random celebrities for something like this, including Unwilling Roboticisation. Melanie C fells victim to this.

Films — Live-Action[]

  • Partially subverted in ET the Extraterrestrial: Despite their initially sinister appearance, the scientists pursuing E.T. show no sign of wanting to cut him up, and even try to save his life when he's dying. They do want to cart him off and lock him up in a secret location while they study him, though.
  • Averted in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Both humans and aliens always planned to return everyone unharmed at the end, except for volunteers who agree to be taken to the aliens' planet.
  • Played straight in Starman.
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Shirmin: (disgusted) Welcome to planet Earth.

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  • In Phenomenon the government is almost totally upfront about wanting to do this to George. Because George's mind is working at near 100% efficiency, it takes him no time at all to realize what they're not saying is that the exploratory surgery they want to do would kill him, and that they think they'd get less data doing the same surgery after his death.
    • Neuroscience KILLS!!!
    • At least they're willing to take no for an answer, unlike many of the other examples on this page.
    • Not really. When he says 'no', they have him declared insane and get a court order to perform the surgery. By claiming it's a treatment, they create a plausible legal excuse for vivisection.
  • Transformers: They're actually shown experimenting on Bumblebee.
    • And by experimenting we mean basically torturing him.
  • In The Incredible Hulk movie, knowledge of what Thunderbolt wants to do with the gamma power is why Bruce keeps running because he knows they'll dissect him and try to weaponize the gamma power.
  • In Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Cornelius warns the fugitive astronaut Brent against speaking if captured by the apes-- "If they catch you speaking, they will dissect you. And they will kill you. In that order."
  • Notably averted in Escape to Witch Mountain and Return From Witch Mountain, which revolved around the Human Alien kids being more in danger of exploitation by greedy individuals than dissection by The Men in Black. However, it's played straight in the 2008 Race to Witch Mountain.
  • In Splash, an "internal examination" was the next thing on the to-do list of mermaid Madison's scientist captor.
  • Repo! The Genetic Opera. Plot involves a future society in which 90% of the population has required organ transplants to survive a horrible illness. Unfortunately, the company that gives the operations demands steady repayment for the organs they provide. If not...a 'repo man' comes to 'repossess' your organs. Also, it's a musical. Yes, a musical. Also... Giles can sing.
  • Seems to be subverted in District 9 so far—dissection is one of the least of the cruelties inflicted on the aliens.
    • However, this is exactly the reason that Wikus goes on the run, since they actually were about to vivisect him (unanesthetised and fully aware, no less!) when he managed to get free and escape.
  • And lest we forget, "disassemble" is practically an arc word in Short Circuit.
    • Except that NOVA had little interest in Number-5's sentience; they saw it as a bug that needed fixing at best and a potential threat to innocent civilians at worst. At no point in either movie does any organization have any deliberate intention of doing any unpleasant experimentation on him.
  • A kid-friendly version appears in the Swedish children's movie "Pirret" (approximately "That Bubbly Feeling"). The movie is about a little girl who can fly when she's particularly happy and has "that bubbly feeling". Her mother asks the family physician if there's anything wrong with the girl, and the girl is whisked off to the hospital where a very unsympathetic doctor tries to find out what makes her fly. No actual cutting up, just MRI scans and stuff. Of course, since the doctor is constantly scaring her, she doesn't get "that bubbly feeling" in the doctor's presence, and in the end she's released.
  • In the panned sequel, Starship Troopers: Hero of The Federation, former Jerkass Lieutenant Pavlov Dill uses these exact words when he finds the finds that the rest of the soldiers (all infected by mind-control Control Bugs) have infected Gen. Shepherd with the Arachnids' plan being to send him back to the Federation so he can infect other Federation Leaders and take over the world. His threats are cut short when another infected soldier slowly walks behind him and slits his throat, making it Redemption Equals Death:
    • Pavlov: "You bastards... you are all under arrest for murder, sedition, for treason against the Federation. Oh! Your going to pay... because we're not going to kill you... oh no... you see, we got special places for things like you... where they cut you up, but they keep you alive when they cut you up... so they can see what makes you tick, and they what makes you sick! And I will be there, oh yeah! I'm going to be there when they see ACK!" (threat cut short by infected soldier cutting his throat).
    • Arachnid dissection and vivisection occur in the first film as well- particularly pay attention to the captured brain bug in the epilogue.
  • Jack Frost's son is afraid (and to his credit, more Genre Savvy than his dad) that Jack will be experimented on by the government if he'd ever been discovered. Jack says he doesn't care, as long as he gets to spend some time with his son.
  • In The Man Who Fell to Earth, this issue comes up when Thomas (an alien) is captured by the U.S. government and experimented upon for years, no matter how much he begs. Oh, the prison is a nice hotel suite, he never wants for food, etc. and he even has a final tryst with his Earth mistress...but his imprisonment seals the fate of his dying race back home, and he is finally released a broken, stranded soul.
  • In Gremlins 2, one of the cloned scientists tells Gizmo they'll "just have to cut you open" for their tests.


Literature[]

  • The Goose that Laid the Golden Eggs. Its owner killed it to know how it worked, didn't learn anything, and now no longer gets golden eggs. Poor sucker.
    • Used as a proverb when it looks like somebody might end up cutting off a vital source of long-term gain (be it information or money) in their greed for short-term gain: "Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs".
    • Subverted in Singularity Sky when an ignorant citizen of a backwater world asks a Sufficiently Advanced Alien for a goose that lays golden eggs. No-one thinks about how it works until they start suffering radiation sickness... transmutation in real life is a nuclear process, after all.
  • Explicitly averted in the Isaac Asimov short story "Belief". The protagonist is a physics professor who discovers that he can fly; the entire story is about his attempts to get the scientific establishment to take him seriously. (His claims of antigravity get written off as a hoax, even on at least one physical demonstration.)
  • Asimov also wrote an SF version of the Golden Goose story (Pâté de Foie Gras) which subverted this. Even though it's just a goose, the government scientists were extremely careful not to harm it, and were terrified when it developed a fever.
    • That was just practicality, though. They mentioned trying to figure out how to breed more such geese (obviously, golden eggs won't hatch) so that some could be spared for dissection.
      • They also weren't interested in the goose so much for the traditional reason ("Gold! Gold! We're RICH!!!") so much as they were interested in how a frakking goose was accomplishing nuclear transmutation of the elements inside its reproductive system.
  • Paul Chadwick's Concrete plays with this trope extensively. For one thing, the title character is just as eager to understand his transformation as the scientists are, and therefore he cooperates with them. For another, he is a world-famous celebrity, and it would be quickly noticed if he vanished mysteriously, or if some overzealous scientist got carried away with his studies. Furthermore, scientists in Concrete tend to be sympathetic characters who want to stay on the right side of the law. In fact, Concrete cooperates with the government and the military to create his cover story.
  • In Mercedes Lackey's urban fantasies, this trope is out in full force. The secret government facility or evil corporations are more than happy to track down people with psychic or magic talents and do nasty things to them in the name of controlling them and/or using their powers.
  • This is why Cris from the short story (and The Movie) Next never stays in one place too long.
    • In the case of the movie, however, the threat wasn't scientific experimentation but rather the possibility that the FBI would imprison Cris for life and force him to use his predictions to their advantage. He willingly goes with them in the end to prevent a nuclear attack that would kill his love interest.
  • Stephen King writes of The Shop, a government organization which does paranormal researches, into a lot of his stories. Charlie from Firestarter was on the run from them because of their desire to use Charlie as a weapon. This is mainly because her powers were entirely due to their Playing with Syringes with her parents, and they wanted to see the only really militarily useful result of the experiment. And by "militarily useful," we mean "potentially able to crack the planet in half."
  • Used in the Maximum Ride series, where the main characters are running away from one of these types of labs.
  • Similarly to the Twilight Zone example, the first humans to encounter the aliens in Pandora's Star by Peter F. Hamilton are dissected. The sequence, told from the alien's point of view, is pure horror even with death being (usually) a minor inconvenience in the Commonwealth.
  • In one of the Halo novels this is the reason given by Doctor Halsey for why the data on how Sargent Johnson survived contact with the Flood can never be told to anyone (even the good Sargent himself, who would likely turn himself in). Ironically, she tells this to the Master Chief . . . who later crushes the data crystal containing aforementioned information.
  • The backstory in The Stars My Destination has shades of this with the first man, a scientist, to learn to Jaunt, or teleport. The first time it happens is under the stress of a fatal situation, and the scientist knows that, to replicate the phenomenon, his colleagues are going to do their best to kill him. Subverted because he actually goes along with this, and after saying his goodbyes, does replicate it. The result is, by the time the novel takes place, all of mankind can teleport at will.
  • The reason that Nancy, heroine of Lois Duncan's A Gift of Magic, gives for wanting to keep her psychic powers a secret. She's isn't afraid of being dissected, but she is afraid of being dragged off by the government and being turned into a lab rat. The government already knows about her powers and respects her right to keep them to herself if that's what she wants.
  • In China Mieville's Perdido Street Station, Isaac visits the garuda (eagle people) ghetto and tries to bribe some of them to come to his lab so he can study them. The garuda leader loudly informs his flock that "they'll take your wings away, kill you dead!" even though Isaac protests that's not his plan.
  • Invoked in Robert A. Heinlein's The Star Beast by John's ancestor when he acquires a native pet (or rather, inadvertently kidnaps a native princess) while exploring an alien planet.
  • Flinx of the Humanx Commonwealth series was genetically manipulated by the Meliorare Society as part of their secret program to produce supermen. When their more spectacular failures came to light, they were outlawed and hunted down along with all their experimental subjects. Those that could be "made normal" were corrected; those that could not were destroyed. Despite being superficially normal, Flinx is possessed of strong Psychic Powers, which alone would be enough to get him put in a fishbowl and studied for the rest of his life, but that plus his affiliation with the Meliorares means he is exceedingly careful to reveal his talents only to people he absolutely trusts. Even then, he runs afoul of this trope on several occasions, most specifically in Flinx in Flux, where not just one but two separate antagonists join the hunt—one to "fix him" and the other to "study him". On several occasions, he also runs afoul of surviving members of the Meliorares who see him as an opportunity for vindication of their cause.
  • Michael Crichton's Next revolves around the Real Life legal precedents that could be interpreted as this. Yeah, that's right; current biotech laws are vague enough that if a doctor harvests cells from you, not only can they sell them to researchers without compensating you, whoever buys those cells might own your "cell line" - AKA you and your children. ...At least if they have a skilled Amoral Attorney.


Live-Action TV[]

  • This is pretty much the reason the Diffy family in Phil of the Future try to hide the fact that they come from the year 2121.
  • In Pushing Daisies, this is why Ned doesn't want anybody to know that he can bring people Back from the Dead. Given Ned's neurotic personality, it's not really surprising that he would think this.
    • Besides which, if anybody found out how his powers worked, he'd be arrested for murder (probably third degree) for reviving Chuck when he knew that it would result in an innocent person dying.
  • In a less extreme example, the main character of Kyle XY keeps his abilities a secret because he wants to live a normal life, rather than spending all his days being tested by scientists.
  • In Heroes, HRG tells Claire that this is what the company would do to her if they found her, presumably in order to test her regenerative properties.
    • In other words, it'd be no different from her day-to-day life, and at least it'd be For Science! rather than for kicks as is usually the case with the poster child for masochistic self-mutilation.
    • Also, while not exactly cut up, Elle was treated to some rather unpleasant tests to figure out how powerful she was as part of her Backstory.
  • In the pilot episode of ALF, what finally convinces the family to hide the titular alien is being told by the researchers themselves what they plan to do to him.
    • Subverted in the later TV movie, where it's shown that Alf's doing all right after turning himself in, when he is not shooting his mouth off at least.
  • In an episode of Farscape, Crichton thinks he's returned to Earth. It's a world constructed from his memories, and when the aliens running the show introduce a copy/clone of Rygel dead on a dissection table, it's implied this is what Crichton subconsciously expects to happen. And he's a military scientist!
    • Ironically, when the crew actually does arrive on Earth, they're all treated as honored dignitaries and celebrities. Moya arrived at Earth several weeks before Crichton did (Note that Crichton's father and several other humans were already aboard when Crichton steps out) so the aliens actually managed to do fine by themselves.
  • In Babylon 5, Talia's telepathic abilities had been enhanced to an unknown degree by her A God Am I ex-boyfriend, Jason Ironheart. A while after she left the show due to being revealed to have a sleeper personality, Bester mentioned that the Psi Corps had learned a lot when they "dissect--that is, examination" her. This is probably Bester trying to put people off their guard and/or just being a Jerkass, as the sleeper agent program was initiated by the Shadow-allied faction of the Corps, and he's not part of that, nor was he aware of Talia's sleeper personality before it was exposed.
    • Much later in the series, Bester offers to help Lyta Alexander find employment by providing fake Psi Corps credentials... in return for her body. After she's done using it, of course, and the contract would be void if she died of anything other than natural causes.
    • In the episode when Talia got her upgrade, Bester and his partner were trying to apprehend Jason Ironheart for just this purpose. When they finally do find him he's become so powerful that he accidentally kills one of them and then turns into a god.
  • Recently used in The Sarah Jane Adventures. Sarah thinks that if UNIT ever found out about Luke, they'd consider him a threat and lock him up.
    • She's not keen on them knowing about Mr Smith, either.
  • Inverted, with humans 'cut up' by non-humans, in The Twilight Zone.
  • In The Secret World of Alex Mack, this is one reason that Alex keeps her powers secret. Since the chemical plant really does want to cut her up and/or kill her lest the knowledge of the chemical's danger get out, her fears are somewhat justified. In the last episode, they do finally catch her, but rather than cut her up, they leave her to die in an exploding chemical plant. Danielle Atron also rubs this trope in Alex's face in the last episode.
    • This was somewhat subverted in regards to her parents. When they discovered her powers in the same episode (due to her confessing after said parents were left for dead in the exploding plant as well), they were quite understandably offended by Alex's belief that they would turn her in.
  • At the beginning of Power Rangers Dino Thunder, Kira suggests they go to the authorities about their new superpowers and the Mooks that attacked them. Hollywood Nerd Ethan argues that in movies, people with powers tend to end up in a lab with wires in their head, and Jerk Jock Conner agrees that even he's Genre Savvy about that part.
  • Star Trek: The Next Generation ("The Measure of a Man"). A Federation cyberneticist wants to disassemble the android Data for study, and Captain Picard has to legally establish that he has the right to refuse to undergo the procedure.
    • Which brings up some nasty Fridge Logic about the fact that Data had already been admitted to Starfleet Academy, been granted a commission and rank as an officer, and even decorated with medals for valor in the line of duty; none of which would or could apply to a piece of property rather than a legal recognized individual. The scientist's argument is essentially just "ignore that stuff because it would be cool if I could figure out how to make lots of new androids that we can treat like disposable slaves".
  • Clark's secret is kept for this reason in Smallville and it's also mentioned in Lois and Clark. How would they cut him up? Kryptonite knives, of course.
    • In a Lois and Clark episode, Lois travels to an Alternate Universe where Clark never became Superman due to his adoptive parents dying when he was little. His fiancée keeps berating him using this trope as a warning whenever he covertly uses his powers to save people. This world has also gone to hell after the arrival of Tempus, who gets himself elected President and removes all gun regulations. Cue the chaos. Fortunately, Lois fixes the situation by making Clark a suit identical to her Clark's.
  • The aliens of 3rd Rock from the Sun lived in constant fear of this and it was brought up whenever they thought they might be found out. Subverted in that, despite their fears, the idea of them being aliens never occurred to anyone other than Kathy Bates and her character was portrayed as insane. This is despite their occasional Suspiciously Specific Denial to being aliens.
  • In the first season of Roswell, the FBI is pursuing the aliens, presumably to do sinister experiments on them. In the episode The White Room, Max is captured, and narrowly escapes dissection after being tortured. Though Pierce, the head of the Special Unit, was after information, not scientific knowledge.
  • What Wolfram & Hart want to do with Connor in Angel. Given that the main thing that separates him from the many people with superpowers in the world is that he's a focus of prophecy (presumably ones that will be defunct if they kill him) it seems a bit of a waste.
  • The Initiative on Buffy did this with demons to create Super Soldiers. It went horribly wrong, of course.
    • Riley also seemed to think this is what would happen to him if the Initiative gets hold of him again, even though they're presumably known where he is the whole time. Of course, the real reason they're trying to bring him in is to remove his modifications, which are causing severe mental and physical breakdown, so he's not exactly being rational.
  • In an unusual twist, the Tam family in Firefly presumably laughed off this possibility, if it even occurred to them at all, when the government expressed interest in their 'gifted' daughter, River. Disaster ensued, and her brother Simon had to sacrifice his medical career to get her away from the scientists post-cutting up and take her on the lam to prevent it from happening again.
  • Sort of the catalyst for the whole series in Red Dwarf. In the first episode, the Captain tells Lister his cat will be cut up and have tests run on it, prompting the response, "Would you put it back together when you were done?"
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Lister: Well, with respect, sir, what's in it for the cat?

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  • This trope is why Rose didn't call a doctor for the Doctor in "The Christmas Invasion".
    • Quite justifiable, considering what happened to the Doctor the last time a medical "professional" got a hold of him, during the TV Movie. "Wow, this man has two hearts! Let's ignore that bullet wound that's killing him and poke his other heart with our scalpels and see what happens!"
      • That one was actually an honest mistake on their part (they misinterpreted their readings as him being a human with some kind of bizarre heart problem and tried to 'fix' it.)
    • Especially since Henry van Staten does it to him in 'Dalek' in an earlier season.
    • And then Torchwood get their hands on him. And promptly avert things; the squad with trained guns lower them and applaud, and while he's captive he's told he'd be kept comfortable, and is in no way actually restricted. The Doctor proceeds to ... act civilised (aside from breaking a window to make a point).
    • This happens to a human captured by Silurians in The Hungry Earth. Alive, and without anesthetics.
    • When short-lived companion Adam has future technology installed in his head in an attempt to set up a Timeline-Altering MacGuffin situation, the Doctor drops his useless ass back on earth and tells him that now he has to live quietly, less this happen to him. Which isn't going to be easy, since now his skull opens up every time someone snaps their fingers in his vicinity.
  • The Daily Show spoofs this with a John Oliver story about two politicians who decided to campaign together while running against each other to send a message of civility. John concludes that in the world were to learn of their existence, "they would be poked and prodded until there was nothing left." The story ends on an homage to E.T., with Jon Stewart playing the part of the evil scientist.
  • H20: Just Add Water mermaids fears this will happened to them if their secret is known.
  • Henry from Sanctuary is captured by the Cabal, who attempt to turn him into a werewolf permanently, kill him and study him—all in the name of science, of course. He's even promised it'll be a noble end for him.
  • In the UK Being Human (UK), the group encounters a zombified girl (who is in total denial of her status and appearance as a rotting corpse). When they go looking into her origins at the hospital they find evidence of several other living dead individuals who met this fate at the hands of doctors and scientists trying to discover what made them tick. The video they find even includes the final disposal of the still aware remains of these individuals (by cremation).
  • In The Suite Life On Deck, Zack invokes this trope after convincing Woody that a rat bite has mutated him.


Tabletop Games[]

  • This is the fear of para-psychics in Cthulhu Tech - completely justified since the government of their Bad Future doesn't even keep the fact that they sometimes do this a secret.
    • Considering how dangerous uncontrolled para-psychics are, the general public doesn't have a problem with this either.
  • In Hunter: The Vigil, the Cheiron Group is a Mega Corp which does just this - it captures supernatural creatures, figures out how their powers work, and then cuts out bits and implants them into field agents so they can use those powers. This is one of the few times where the player is doing the cutting-and-utilizing.
  • And then there's Promethean: The Created, where several of the antagonist monsters demonstrate why you don't want an alchemically-reanimated corpse with incredible power and an inborn Uncanny Valley effect getting anywhere near a Morally-Ambiguous Doctorate. The reasons range from a Galateid whose tissue was broken down and utilized to create living sex dolls to a cloning program that practically turns Prometheans into genetic soup.


Theater[]

  • In Bat Boy: The Musical, this is one of the reasons the sheriff gives for bringing the recently discovered "bat boy" to the local vet, rather than somewhere else.


Videogames[]

  • In Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines one quest sees a resourceful human capturing you and performing sick survivability experiments you have to survive to get back at him.
  • In City of Heroes, Crey Industries does this so often, it's a pretty legitimate fear for the meta-humans in that universe.
    • At least according to the backstory, Crey never actually tries to do it to the player. The most they ever do is attempt to ruin your public image for getting too close to their CEO's big dark secret.
  • Resident doctor slash nuttybar Shiro in Siren does this to the Shibitofied Onda twins, experimenting on what, exactly, it would take to kill them. The answer is: nothing. Made especially Squicky when he tugs an unborn fetus out of Mina, the girl he had KILLED earlier in the plot and proceeds to stamp on it. Lovely.
  • In Prototype, if the Web Of Intrigue videos are anything to go by, this is one of GENTEK's goals regarding Alex Mercer. The problem with this, of course, is Mercer's Person of Mass Destruction status, his Healing Factor, and his propensity for playing dead/unconscious when he's finally cornered. Less than five seconds after the morgue security camera confirms that he's still there, his ex-boss turns around to find that Mercer is right behind him. Somehow.
  • "For Science!" is why Marquis DeSinge wants to capture the pox-infected Guybrush Threepwood (who has gained a prodigious Healing Factor) in Tales of Monkey Island.
  • In one of the bad endings of H-game Madou Souhei Kleinhasa, Roze is experimented on by enemy scientists to find out how her magic works. It's implied that she doesn't survive their experiments.
  • In the X-COM series, it's the standard procedure when dealing with captive aliens.
    • Only dead ones, though. Live ones are interrogated then disposed of.
      • Of course, you can dissect the corpse after the interrogation...
  • Toyed with in Harvest Moon DS. Local Mad Scientist Daryl has been chasing the strange creature Mukumuku for years in an attempt to figure out how it works, and given the long and fantastic family history of genetic experimentation he brags of, it seems It Runs in The Family. So when chance favors him, and he happens upon an injured mermaid girl? He takes her home to his basement, and... diligently cares for her until she recovers. And if you befriend said mermaid, she openly chastises you for daring to think Daryl would experiment on her.
  • The resident Mad Scientists of the Big Mountain Research Facilty were fond of this, needing no real excuse other than to do Science. Vivisection can get boring!
  • In inFAMOUS, Cole receives several warnings that the government wouldn't treat him kindly if they got their hands on him. It turns out to be a subversion: they already know how to endow someone with superpowers, they just want to control Cole and choose what direction he's pointed in since his powers are already very offensively oriented. Between the games, every government agent who has this goal for him is killed anyway. The mentalist Alden Tate, however, is vivisected.
  • Sector Seven has the reoccuring issue of hiring lunatics to deal with scientific discoveries. In fact, everyone that was offically hired by Sector Seven that's major to the story has this at some point. Lambda-11 comes to mind, but Relius gets a prize for using his own daughter and wife as experiemnts.


Webcomics[]

  • Girl Genius: This is one of the things sparks needs to worry about. Especially from the Baron himself, in Othar's case.
    • However, Agatha once acknowledges that it's sometimes better than some alternatives.
  • This is why Roland has to keep Sadachbia's presence on the down-low in Not So Distant, since Sadachbia is a large alien, who'd probably look great cut up on a table to Earth scientists.
  • Though she's a little confused about it on their first encounter with the FBI, this is later a thing Aylee in Sluggy Freelance fears. The humans she's living with assume the government would automatically perform a secret alien autopsy on her if they ever found out about her.
  • In Dela The Hooda, the extradimensional fox hybrid Dela is warned against contacting Earth authorities because rumor has it that they dissect aliens. This potential problem is later resolved when the Men In Plaid (the Canadian division of the Men in Black, who wears plaid suits because the Canadian government can't afford fancy, black Italian suits) has a talk with her and decides let her go free.
  • In The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob, this trope is the reason Jean hasn't published any research papers about her Cute Monster Girl synthetic daughter, Molly. As depicted here.
  • The talking raccoon, Woo, of Sandra and Woo mentions this when he first reveals this gift to Sandra, saying that he's kinda' attached to his vocal cords, and asking her to keep it quiet. The danger is never mentioned again.
  • When Vexxarr is first captured, the lab geeks started running tests on Minionbot, mostly consisting of finding out that none of their tools can affect his casing. They get as far as hammers before Minionbot gets mad.
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Minionbot: Ow! Right, enough! [grabs hammer] While subject does not appear to have any obvious connection points, I am sure that with correctly applied force it will disassemble nicely. I begin now with the elbow...

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  • Parodied in Grrl Power here
  • This is the objective of The Coroner in Sidekick Girl. He's already killed one superhero by vivisection that we know of. The one he's most interested in (And has already captured once) is the title character, whose Healing Factor means that he can dissect her infinitely without her dying, allowing him more time to figure out how her powers work.


Web Originals[]

  • Largely averted or subverted by the SCP Foundation, who largely take the place those traditionally experimenting on the Monster of the Week's corpse would. The Foundation tends to be interested in observing and containing subjects, destroying those too dangerous. It helps that they really don't want more of most SCPs, but the rare helpful ones avoid vivisection simply because there's no way to be sure it'd provide useful information, and there's usually only one. Of course, when that's not the case...
  • Phase doesn't believe that this is a prevalent problem in the Whateley Universe. Even after his own family lets a Mad Scientist trank him and slap him on an operating table. Part of the backstory of The Verse is that Phase is wrong about this. Really wrong.
  • In the backstory to Red vs. Blue, this was the fate of the Alpha AI. The entire series plot thus far is (sometimes loosely) based around dealing with the repercussions of cutting it into pieces.
  • Averted twice in The Salvation War: once, the National Security Advisor attempts to get a succubus so that he can vivisect her, but George W. Bush prevents this—the succubus had already been offered sanctuary for defecting—so the advisor has to "make do" with dissecting corpses of daemons killed in war. Later, Abigor offers some of his soldiers so that they can vivisected and humans can understand how demons are on the inside, but the general he is talking to tells him that it would be against their laws and doesn't follow on the offer.
  • Invoked in at least a few Chakona Space stories.


Western Animation[]

  • Subverted in Johnny Test. Johnny doesn't want anyone to know that his dog Dukey can talk, because if they did they would make him a reality tv show!
    • Which makes sense, as there is no usual scientific data that could be gained from it that couldn't also be gained by, you know, just asking Susan and Mary, since they gave him all of those abilities.
    • In one episode, the Network Executives are shown to scare even the axe-crazy Repto-Slicer.
  • In a very meta episode of Transformers (1980's) several of the characters wind up on a planet inhabited by giant humanoids, to whom the Autobots are the size of toys. When a scientist gets hold of them, they do indeed try to dissect them. One might wonder how being tiny and mechanical plays into the decision.
  • Blackarachnia left the Autobots in Transformers Animated because she was afraid this would happen to her after she became technoorganic. Given the xenophobic nature of the High Command, she might not be too far off the mark.
  • Used, as one would expect, as one of the justifications for the Gargoyles masquerade. Given that no less than four of their enemies—Xanatos, Demona, Thailog, and Sevarius—have expressed a desire to do nasty things with their genetic material and have in fact done so, it's quite justified.
  • As with the Gargoyles example, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles take this trope to heart. Given that the first thing government agent Bishop did when he captured them was to take their genetic material and try to dissect them, their fears are more than simple paranoia.
  • Justified in Danny Phantom, where his ghost-obsessed parents aren't getting ethics approval for their research and have explicitly said they'd like to dissect or kill any ghost they find "molecule by molecule". However, it's odd that Danny was so certain they'd do the same to their own child, a half-ghost.
    • Well, with Jack constantly shouting that when he catches the ghost kid, he will rip him apart, molecule by molecule, it's reasonably understandable. One episode has them find out and accept him, only for him to wipe their minds for no reason, causing them to go back to hunting him.
    • Also the Guys in White, and their famous quote from Reality Trip: "You're coming in for questioning-" "-and experiments. Lots and lots of really painful experiments."
  • Very nearly carried out in the pilot episode of Street Sharks, to the point in which the doctor has Slammu tied down to an operating table and heavily sedated before the others escape and save him. They then try to perform the same "explorative surgery" on the doctor with what is essentially a chain saw before they have to escape.
  • The Mad Scientist in the Mickey Mouse short The Mad Doctor" actually sings a song about how he's a master at cutting bodies up and grafting parts to each other. He's first introduced as having planned to cut Pluto's freaking head off and graft it onto a chicken's body, just to see what sort of noise it would make. And he nearly cuts Mickey's stomach open with a HUGE buzz saw.
    • Specifically, the Mad Scientist wants to graft Pluto's head onto a hen's body and then breed the result with a normal rooster to see if whatever hatches from the egg will cackle, crow, or bark. Talk about You Fail Biology Forever...
  • Notably averted in Superman: The Animated Series. While alien and metahuman experimentation is fairly established in DCAU, it's not something Superman even considers as a possible problem, and the first thing he does when he has a scientific question is ally with a tech company.
  • What Dib wants to do to Zim on Invader Zim. Unlike most of these examples, this is not entirely unjustified, especially since we see Zim doing experiments on humans himself.
  • The main reason Roger in American Dad hides from the CIA. In one episode, he actually does get captured and is about to be cut up, but Stan saves him.
  • Referenced and averted in Hop. Fred says that this would happen to E.B. if he just went around talking in public. This is immediately followed by E.B. complaining to their waitress about his order, and her acting as if this is perfectly normal.


Real Life[]

  • Nazis would do this to minorities among other things, that's why Mengele is known as the Angel of Death...
    • Even worse (if that's possible) Mengele's "experiments" almost never produced any actual, useful scientific data, and didn't seem to have any purpose other than "how many more horrible things can we do?" Even Mengele's contemporaries were baffled.
  • The Japanese did this to Prisoners of War and Chinese civilians during World War 2, and to make it worse, they didn't use any anesthetics on the patients when they were vivisected
  • Benign example with exploratory surgery. "something's gone wrong inside you so we need to cut you open to see what we need to fix."
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